Funny, at least for the first 10 times. He had not been subjected to the highest level of vetting, "developed vetting", allowing unrestricted access to top secret material. But no, certainly not in this kind of context. The judge actually criticised the timing of the statement and said he was unsure whether it was out of ignorance or deliberate. And I think that is a clear lesson, that the what if is as pointless as the why me?. [1] He follows Tottenham Hotspur. They take your clothes when you go to prison, which I think is sensible. So, although they were still pretty young, theyd had a crash course in the law and in the legal process, if you like, already. Andy: Their choice really. And I managed to get there. Its amazing. Andy: I have, yeah, and weve had that discussion. Jane: So youd make a lousy newspaper editor now? Dan Evans testified that even "the office cat" knew . I think thats probably about right and so I have no issue with other peoples views about me. Andy: Yeah, there came a point where I was told pretty formally, youre not going anywhere. . Andy Coulson, the former newspaper editor and Downing Street spokesperson jailed on phone hacking charges, revealed that he has built a new career as a crisis strategy consultant - and "business. [58], Coulson's trial over the phone-hacking claims started in October 2013. Andy: Well Belmarsh was going through a pretty dysfunctional phase at that stage. Episode 8. Andy Coulson is the former spokesman for No 10 who reached the highest levels of his profession - before coming crashing down as a result of the phone-hacking scandal. 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He attended Beauchamps High School, a secondary school and sixth form college, from 1979 to 1986. Did you do a lot of that? We worked together for a long time. Now, I dont recall seeing one of you. The saddest thing in prison is when youre queuing up for the phone, because thats how the system works, you have to wait to be able to use the phone. Jane: So, there came a point where you thought, OK, I dont know how long Im going to be here. But more that, my conviction is spent now, its gone. Andy: Well, losing people, like we all have. It was that sort of combination of mind-numbing boredom, an awful lot of frustration because I was told that I would be in Belmarsh for a couple of days and then Id be categorised, given the nature of my conviction, be categorised as a D-Cat pretty swiftly, and then Id be off to an open prison. In David Cameron: The Conservative-Liberal Democratic coalition government Andy Coulson, Cameron's communications chief, had already left that post in January of the same year in the wake of the growing evidence tying him to the scandal. [27], After David Cameron became Prime Minister in May 2010, he appointed Coulson as Director of Communications for the government at 10 Downing Street. The Pickwick Papers, I think, I would probably choose as the favourite. [64] In October 2013, it was revealed that Coulson had had an affair with Rebekah Brooks that lasted from 1998 to 2007. I dont need you take my advice but I do need you to listen to my advice. What I was reading, I disagreed with. Which it was. Andy: Well that didnt happen immediately, because theres a period of time between verdict and sentencing. But this kind of disconnection from family, whatever the circumstances, is just a fundamental negative. People treated us with respect and we did the same. But Ive never done it in any detail other than, of course, over a very long period in a witness box in the Old Bailey. Andy: Well, just the checking-in process because Id obviously tried to do some research beforehand. I dont know, but it was incredibly frustrating. [13] On 17 April 2015, the Crown Prosecution Service announced that Coulson's retrial was to be scrapped, along with that of Goodman and the trials of seven other journalists. Thats why I resigned from the News of the World and then when I was in Downing Street, Im there thinking how on Earth can I do this job? [13] He was sentenced on 4 July 2014 to 18 months in prison. He commented about the News of the World allegations "I stand by what I've said about those events but when the spokesman needs a spokesman it's time to move on. Coulson replaced Rebekah Wade as editor in 2003. When were your darkest days? Certainly not for me. So even though Id spent eight and a half months in the Old Bailey in a trial, knowing that that was a possibility, sat in a dock for the large part, theres a padded green door on your left that you know goes to the cells and theres the exit on the right, although Id spent all that time wondering am I going to go left or right, when you hear the word guilty you know full well that youre going to be going left. [34], On 7 February 2011, Coulson and his wife established 'Elbrus Consultants Ltd'. If resilience is genetic then I think Ive definitely benefitted in that regard. Explaining his ruling, Lord Burns said that for Coulson to be found guilty it was necessary for the Crown to prove that the allegedly untrue evidence he had given at the 2010 Sheridan trial had been relevant to the issues in it. In this first episode of the second series, Andy puts himself on the other side of the microphone and talks to journalist and broadcaster Jane Moore about his five-year crisis. I saw him in January. Ask away. Im absolutely sure that Im a better advisor as a result of what happened. Andy: Yeah, always. I think it is something that you need to continually look at and work on and assess and I certainly do that. In 2005, Andy Coulson was the award-winning editor of the News of the World, presiding over a culture of ruthless exploitation. Ex-spin doctor Andy Coulson found guilty of conspiracy to hack phones Phone hacking took place while he was the editor of the News of the World Police identified 4,000 possible victims of phone. And funnily enough, the governor, or the duty governor, pulled me out of the cell one night to ask me whether or not I was OK because he had read the report. Series 2. So thats why were doing this. I love a good book, both fiction and non-fiction. Early life. And that was partly necessary, just from a practical point of view, but it was also definitely a coping mechanism as well. [14] So, what are yours? Find Andy Coulson's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading online directory for contact information. Pic credit: CBS. Its actually a relatively modern prison but its got, as anyone whos been there, either inside or visiting, will know, this enormous American-style prison wall around its perimeter, and massive gates. Big Brother 15 winner Andy Herren has never been shy about sharing his opinion on social media. The Coulson Brothers - Mills Brothers Medley -Bass Guitar & Vocals - Curt CoulsonLead Guitar & Vocals - Jack CoulsonKeyboards & Vocals - Otis CliftonDrums & . View the profiles of professionals named "Andy Coulson" on LinkedIn. And before I knew it, much sooner than I thought, there was sun coming through the windows and then, again, it sounds strange, I suspect, to some people, but I just found the whole thing so utterly absurd. Youre a state-school-educated Essex lad. That was a good moment for us because we were then very clear that this was not about me becoming chums, this was about me being a professional advisor to him and him taking that advice seriously and the relationship on that basis went forward. What conversations did you have with your older boys? Dublin. And we had a lot of fun, is the truth of it. Various media stories estimated his salary at between 275,000[26] and 475,000; the party indicated the latter figure was "inaccurate" and that his salary was "substantially less" but refused to provide an exact figure. But youve never shared your own experience. So, I spot the signs and I know what to do and I know how to kind of avoid it. So, youve got inmates there who have been in prison for a very long time. I mean, you've probably faced a few challenges in your life but an eight-month trial at the Old Bailey, followed by prison, is obviously another league. It taught me that I consider myself to be a reasonably good friend but I think I could have been better, so I think it taught me to be a better friend. So when I was taken from the cell, youre then handcuffed and you line up and you wait to get on the bus. So, actually, often there are these little small acts of kindness in prison, he didnt have to do it but he let me go to the phone and call Eloise and say that this things out there, but just be assured its total rubbish. Jane: And that was what, because of the dangers of drug smuggling? I found myself, very quickly, saying things in my own head that I had been saying to members of the cabinet not that long before, albeit them facing different crises, the principles were the same. That these prison sentences, you end up in a holiday-camp prison. I think it probably did. And then we got closer to it and as it looked likely that we were going to succeed, David sat me down and said, I need you and I want you to stay. Im with a bunch of other people who are in the same situation as me and Ive just got to make the best of it really. My brother was there and one of my best pals, Kris, and there was a lot of manly hugging and goodbyes. And there was clearly a view inside Number 10 that, the moment a guilty verdict came, we need to get out and start talking and I think that was a bad decision. [28], Coulson announced his resignation on 21 January 2011. I dont have too many dark days any more but I do have the odd grey day, I think everybody does, for all sorts of reasons. Do you still have dark days? That doesnt mean that Im pleased it happened, Im not. And I have to say that we never had any problems. Coulson is pictured leaving the court earlier. Appalling times, by the way, that are far in excess of anything that Ive ever experienced, and we became friends. I mean, there were lots of theories at the time. So, until you are there for, as it turned out for me, a couple of weeks, a bit longer actually, youve got to wear this kind of corned-beef-coloured tracksuit, which is utterly charming. Which do you think it was? What happens to you when you come there? Your job is to be judgemental. The court felt that they could deal with it so thats where that ended. Jane: So, you pitch up at Category A prison HMP Belmarsh. Andy: Well, I think because of the podcast series. One you can have total control over, and that is: dont get into debt. Now, a lot of women, I think, in particular listening to this would think, well we wouldnt blame her for just giving up on you after all of that, but she didnt. [23], In 2008 an employment tribunal upheld a claim of bullying by Coulson whilst he was at the News of The World. And then I noticed that the windows of the Serco van that I was in were rose-tinted. My mum, who has had a lot of difficulty in her life, is an amazing woman and shes incredibly resilient. And, in fact, the last words from one of those prison officers to me as I was about to get on the bus were, Keep your head down, youll get through it, life moves on. And that is not a good moment. I thought that was pretty unusual and unfair, but it happened so I had to deal with it. And it was, it was a much better regime. [2], Coulson started work at 18 as a junior reporter on the Basildon Echo in 1986. Then before you know it, because my sentencing was first in the order of the day, if you like, in the Old Bailey, I was then sat in that cell and was there for quite a while because they keep you there until the end of play and then everyone gets put on the bus and ferried off. Jane: Between the jury verdicts at your trial, David issued an apology for hiring you and said it was wrong. And it is all about cues and nudges that push you in a certain direction and I just try and avoid those. [24] The judgement singled out Coulson for making "bullying" remarks in an email to Driscoll. There have been the odd conversations. And I thought that was very generous of them really. I wasnt released on good behaviour, thats the system. Andy: Well I just think for anyone, him or anyone, me included, trying to live life through the rear-view mirror is an utterly pointless exercise, so I dont know. Monty was 12? Almost from the start of the trial, actually, because the profile of the trial was so high. [20], He became deputy editor of the News of the World, the Sunday sister paper of The Sun, in 2000. I cant say I succeeded in that regard, but that was certainly the instinctive approach that I took to it. I think he had people advising him at that stage, obviously. Dont try and solve it all. What did crisis teach you about friendship? The judge added that it was for him, and not the jury, to decide on this aspect of the case and that the Crown's legal submissions had failed to satisfy him that Coulson's evidence had been sufficiently relevant to the Sheridan trial. 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